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 Post Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:03 pm 
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Anyone ever do this and if so how well did it work???????
http://www.ifsja.org/tech/misc/cheapair.html


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no??? no one??? does anyone have any thoughts on it?


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ive heard of this done several ways. One of them is getting an old york AC compressor and hooking it up. Ive talked with Get Bent about it quite a bit i think its something hes doing to his rig.

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 Post subject: Re: OK On Board Air......
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Ok thanx man I will pm him and ask him about it


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I moved it over to this forum. You may get more hits here. :)

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 Post subject: Re: OK On Board Air......
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http://onboardair.com/ has a ton of info.

I have a York 210 AC Compressor in my garage with a mounting kit and tank from Kilby Enterprises; someday I'll get it installed in the Jeep to have on board air... ;)

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I have a york 210 on my cj with a 2gal tank under the battery. It has saved me a thousand times. Nothing nicer than packing your airtools along to go wheelin.....

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 Post subject: Re: OK On Board Air......
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Yea i have looked at the York compressor, but i was wondering if anyone has used there AC pump and how well it worked and what kind of pressures you can expect


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Why do you need air when you can roll down the window...... LOL JK


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Markman260 wrote:
Yea i have looked at the York compressor, but i was wondering if anyone has used there AC pump and how well it worked and what kind of pressures you can expect


If I recall correctly, the factory AC compressor doesn't have any provision for internal lubrication (and thus you need to make your own), vs the York does; also I'm pretty sure the York 210 will output more CFM than the factory compressor.

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Yea i have looked at the York compressor, but i was wondering if anyone has used there AC pump and how well it worked and what kind of pressures you can expect

What do you think the York was on a CJ? It is an AC pump that a seperate oil chamber for the crank and rod bearing for the piston. Most other AC pumps don't have this feature and use the oil in the freon to lubricate themselves. That is also why the York is so sought after for OBA. Other compressors can be used but require the use of an upstream oiler and usually a down stream oil/moisture seperator.

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oh ok..... see i was looking online at the OBA kits with the york compressor.... I didnt know that they made the AC pumps on the CJ. ok next Questions anyone have a CJ york compressor they want to get rid off LOL.....


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The big fail for me on this would be the lack of compressor oiling. AC compressors need internal oil. I would say a normal ac compreesor would fail pretty fast.

Also the moisture would be an issue as well. Compressing air makes heat which will make moisture. The moisture combined with no oiling will kill the system pretty quick.

Your better of doing tanks that can be refilled or just getting a correct onboard air comp which can be expensive.


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SUBARU? wrote:
The big fail for me on this would be the lack of compressor oiling. AC compressors need internal oil. I would say a normal ac compreesor would fail pretty fast.

Also the moisture would be an issue as well. Compressing air makes heat which will make moisture. The moisture combined with no oiling will kill the system pretty quick.

Your better of doing tanks that can be refilled or just getting a correct onboard air comp which can be expensive.

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Get Bent wrote:
SUBARU? wrote:
The big fail for me on this would be the lack of compressor oiling. AC compressors need internal oil. I would say a normal ac compreesor would fail pretty fast.

Also the moisture would be an issue as well. Compressing air makes heat which will make moisture. The moisture combined with no oiling will kill the system pretty quick.

Your better of doing tanks that can be refilled or just getting a correct onboard air comp which can be expensive.

York.


That would be the way to go as far as oiling issues. What kind of cfm do they produce?


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 Post subject: Re: OK On Board Air......
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Just found this for model number info vs cfm output at given rpm.

Looks like the 210 would be the one to get. but the 6 would do the job.

York Air Compressor CFM Ratings (on the truck)
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From: John Nutter
Subject: re: york compressors

I found the displacements of the different York/Techuseh compressors in an old JCW catalog a while ago. Here they are:

Model Displacement (cubic inch per rotation)
F206R 6
F210R 10
R209R 9
R210L 10
T210L 10

To decode:

first digit
F= flange top
R= roto lock
T= tube-O

2nd digit:
2= 2 cylinder

3rd and 4th digits - cu.in displacment of air during one rotation

5th digit:

R= right hand suction
L= left hand suction

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John Nutter '85 CJ7

Bill Blair compiled this shortspread sheet of Engine RPM = CFM output of a converted Air Conditioning Compressor to an on-board Air Compressor system.

This assumes a Compressor Pulley of 5" diamater, and an engine pulley of 6" in diameter.

CFM=(CID*RPM)/(12*12*12)*(Drive_Pulley_Diameter/comp_pulley_diameter)

Compressor Cubic Inch Displacement Cubic Feet per Minute Output @ Engine RPM
1000 2000 3000 4000
6 4.17 8.33 12.5 16.67
8 5.56 11.11 16.67 22.22
9 6.25 12.5 18.75 25
10 6.94 13.89 20.83 27.78


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 Post subject: Re: OK On Board Air......
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Hey subaru? Thanx for the info. Very helpful.


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 Post subject: Re: OK On Board Air......
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Markman260 wrote:
Hey subaru? Thanx for the info. Very helpful.


No problem. I like to learn about new stuff. :)

If you do this please post lotsa pics.


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