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 Post subject: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 3:57 pm 
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For all of those that do not know; the Marine Base 29 Palms is wanting to expand, they want to expand into Johnson Valley, and the area where the Hammers are located (Think King of The Hammers). This will shut Johnson Valley down from recreational use (Unless you're a marine on 29 palms doing drills). It is possible for 29 Palms to expand to the east, and not effect Johnson Valley OHV area. The only way to convince them is to let them know how important Johnson Valley is to the offroad community.
Whether you've been there, plan to go there, or never want to go there, please help out. If they take one OHV area away, it just gives them a president to take more...

For more info check out http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_D_johnson05.23d2bb4.html

And Pirate:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=977850

Pirate's Letter Generator:
http://dev.aldosgroup.com/LetterGenerator/

The deadline to submit letters is the 28th of this month.

Thank you

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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:00 pm 
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More Info from pirate:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=979398
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While this campaign for Johnson Valley and the Hammers trail system is going awesome… but it’s slowing down. It CAN’T slow down. We need 20,000 comments submitted.

I am constantly fighting against apathy and fielding the same questions over and over…

So I wrote this to answer some questions and listed some statements people have made.

If you read this (Which I PRAY that you do) Please bump the thread for me to keep it on top.



I don’t need to write a letter. I have never wheeled in that area, and I will never wheel in that area. This doesn’t affect me.

This is the biggest problem we have. When we only fight for our own backyards, we just don’t have the numbers to have a voice.

When I first got started in this land-use crap, I posted on Pirate asking for everyone’s help with my own area which I was losing. JoeW asked, “Why should we help you? Where the Hell were you when we were losing our trails in Texas?”

He was right. Where was I?

From that point on, I promised to fight for all of our trails. I have never wheeled in Tellico. I have never wheeled in Johnson Valley. But I have fought for those places and many others because I am trying to show by example that saving our access is everyone’s responsibility.

There are 51 MILLION people in the USA that participate in OHV use.

That’s 1 in 4 Americans.

23.8% of the people over the age of 18.


Don’t believe me? Take a peek at this study:

http://www.fs.fed.us/recreation/programs/ohv/OHV_final_report.pdf

What would happen if just a 1/4 of those people were vocal about losing our access?



They won’t read my letter anyway

Yes. They WILL. As long as it is personalized and not a form letter, by NEPA (Basically, by LAW) they HAVE to read each and every comment submitted by the public.

These letters will not make a difference anyway.

Yes. They CAN and they WILL.

Get this: Just ONE letter sent in by WLD WUN (who also happens to be one of my best friends) on this board saved literally 300 miles in the Eldorado National Forest when it went through Travel Management.

Meh..There are others that will write letters, I don’t need too.

No. They won’t.

Don’t rely on the OTHER GUY, because he is not writing them.

We have a strong base of about 300 people here on Pirate who contribute regularly to our letter campaigns, but on a website that has about 200,000 members, and even tens of thousands more non-members viewing it at any given time, we have only a small fraction of people participating.

I am not a “Land-use” expert. I don’t know what to write.

You don’t have to be a “land-use” expert. Shit, I’m not.

We made it easy by having 28, pre-loaded “Topic sentences” with this campaign. You load a topic, add 1-2 sentences expanding on the argument, and BLAM! It’s done. I have done most of the work for you by coming up with the arguments that we need delivered.


I just don’t have the time.

Sending a letter with the generator takes just under a minute. If you do all 28 letters, you are looking at less than ½ hour of work because your address stays on the form and you don’t have to keep typing all your info in.

Plus you just took the time to post up in a thread about licking chick’s asses 15 times, you can take a few minutes to send a letter. :flipoff2:


PLEASE SEND A LETTER TODAY:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=977850

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works.
'08 Dodge 2500, 6.7 Cummins, 4x4
'78 GMC 4x4 short bed
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision"
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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:27 pm 
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one of your links doesn't work Boogers and shit!!

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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:56 am 
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Here is some of the reason we don't have as many legal wheeling spots. I WILL write something up and submit.

Thanks for the info.


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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:18 am 
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95YJMan wrote:
one of your links doesn't work Boogers and shit!!

Letter Generator link fixed

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Jeeper4Life wrote:
noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works.
'08 Dodge 2500, 6.7 Cummins, 4x4
'78 GMC 4x4 short bed
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius
Image.................................................... ImageImage
"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision"
I'm not really an asshole, I just play one on the internet!


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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:25 am 
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i used the letter generator plus some thanks for the link.

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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:05 pm 
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Thanks for the links, Justin. I actually meant to get that info over here, but have been really busy. Thanks.

I was in Johnson Valley this past February for King of the Hammers and let me tell you it is a great place. It would really be a shame to loose access to this piece of land. This battle has been going on since 2008 at least. We haven't lost yet.

mac 'write early, write often' gyvr

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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:10 pm 
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I posted this on Qtech, but its not getting much of a response there, can those of you that are members over there bump the thread
with legit replies. http://quadratecforum.com/showthread.php?t=107239

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works.
'08 Dodge 2500, 6.7 Cummins, 4x4
'78 GMC 4x4 short bed
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision"
I'm not really an asshole, I just play one on the internet!


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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:21 am 
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Just a reminder, if you haven't been doing it, get your letters in, you only have until the end of this week!
You can send as many letters as you like! I think the letter generator that I linked to has 28 options, so get with it!

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Jeeper4Life wrote:
noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works.
'08 Dodge 2500, 6.7 Cummins, 4x4
'78 GMC 4x4 short bed
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision"
I'm not really an asshole, I just play one on the internet!


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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:06 pm 
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I was wrong in my previous post... letters must be submitted today!

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noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works.
'08 Dodge 2500, 6.7 Cummins, 4x4
'78 GMC 4x4 short bed
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision"
I'm not really an asshole, I just play one on the internet!


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http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/News/13-12-12/California_s_Johnson_Valley_off-highway_vehicle_area_saved.aspx

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Jeeper4Life wrote:
noone means any harm and that it's all in fun.. but then there's kennedy..

'46CJ2a/buggy project in the works.
'08 Dodge 2500, 6.7 Cummins, 4x4
'78 GMC 4x4 short bed
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll understand." - Confucius
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"Concern yourself with what is right and you'll never second-guess that decision"
I'm not really an asshole, I just play one on the internet!


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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:58 am 
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Cool, :tu2: . Now if we can just make it out there ...

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 Post subject: Re: HELP SAVE JOHNSON VALLEY
 Post Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:52 pm 
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Been there twice, its worth the trip!

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