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 Post subject: project - my forever non-ending 1 ton tj build thread...
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:22 pm 
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first off... this will be one of the slowest moving threads you will probably ever read/follow if you wish...
anyways, i ended up getting a full float 14 bolt rear... with what appears to have 3.73 gears...
got it for a super good deal.
anyways, plans will include:
14bolt rear
d60 front, leaning towards chevy (cheaper plus pass. drop for d300)
dana 300 transfer case, with twin sticks
5.13 or 5.38 gears, leaning towards 5.38's
will stretch the the wheelbase to 103 ish inches
hi steer with branik hi steer arms
custom long arm suspension with fox racing air shocks.
she will get a full comp cut and fuel cell.
maybe tube the front fenders
full cage (add on to the factory rear half and then tie in to frame)
*edit* the cage is goin to be completely replaced with custom cage..

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i plan to get the axles together and ready to put in before any demo will happen...

made some progress on the 14bolt today, got the diff cover off and checked for gear ratio, appears to have 3.73 gears...
pulled off the driver's side drum and backing plate. got the drum off the hub and the shoes off the backing plate. no more brakes on the driver side.
plan to talk to shawn at great lakes offroad for caliper brackets... the website says that they will run about 65 bucks. will look in to it some more.

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Sweet, another 1 ton jeep!

these are $58, but i don't like this style with the spacers..
http://jkwoffroad.com/offroadproducts.php

i got these (cnc bent) for $50
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/cat ... db7ae23c43

Edit: i can get you a front D60 (chevy) for $500

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need to wait on the front axle...
chuck, what did you use for brakes? years, etc...

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Sparky wrote:
need to wait on the front axle...
chuck, what did you use for brakes? years, etc...


read this...if out search function worked....you could have found it...

http://bbb.jeepininin.com/viewtopic.php?p=98491#98491

lots of info in my "project junior" build thread in this forum too

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need to wait on the front axle...
chuck, what did you use for brakes? years, etc...


the following for rear disc brakes
caliper brackets at bartos...cheap...

78 chevy 3/4 ton single piston front calipers and rotors...relatively inexpensive, but 10 bucks each caliper for core charge unless you have cores...

mac 'works on 14 bolt, d60, and eaton' gyvr

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need to wait on the front axle...
chuck, what did you use for brakes? years, etc...


the following for rear disc brakes
caliper brackets at bartos...cheap...

78 chevy 3/4 ton single piston front calipers and rotors...relatively inexpensive, but 10 bucks each caliper for core charge unless you have cores...

mac 'works on 14 bolt, d60, and eaton' gyvr


Of you can get really expensive Elderado '78 calipers...they've got a lever actuated piston for the parking brake...and the regular hydraulic piston actuated for normal braking...but expect to pay $300 for a pair.

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thanks guys, i will do some more research on prices... rotors will cost the most...

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thanks guys, i will do some more research on prices... rotors will cost the most...


Yup, look for used one, and have them turned...it's just the rears...

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Chuck wrote:
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thanks guys, i will do some more research on prices... rotors will cost the most...


Yup, look for used one, and have them turned...it's just the rears...

that's the plan... may go to a junk yard or 2 if i can make it saturday...

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Cost me 300 to put discs ALL THE WAY AROUND by using the racecar shop and local suppliers.

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This thread could use some pictures :groucho:

workin on it... should have some up this weekend...

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found this for you.
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=74783

14 bolt disc conversion for $48 shipped

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sweet... those are the same brackets i was looking at... on the site they list for 65 bucks...

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They are like 16 apiece at bartos. Thats 32.

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If you want to use almost all factory parts and have a parking brake you could go this route http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483369
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sweet... those are the same brackets i was looking at... on the site they list for 65 bucks...


I really don't recommend that style of bracket, theres too much leverage on the longer bolts, and they're out there on those tacked on stand offs...just not a good idea for brakes in my mind, i want that plate bolted up TIGHT to the axle tube...just my $.02

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New rotors cost $70 for both at Autozone as of last week off of the K20. I'm building one right now too. Detroit, 5.13, discs, C&C width. If you get those brackets from GLO his diff cover for the 14b is really cool too. I poked a hole in the factory cover just scooting it around the garage :? . If you email him and ask if he'll cut you a deal he will probably give you a discount. I don't remember how much of a discount he gave a friend and I but it was pretty good. I went with brackets from Barnes 4wd. He and ruffstuff were the only ones who had bolt on brackets for dually hubs on a srw axle and I had a pretty bad experience with Ruffstuff. I also much prefer the bent style to the tacked on spacers.


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i'm going to check out the racecar shop here in town before anywhere else at this point. those brackets weld on to the housing. i plan to get a diff cover from glo as well... at some point that is...

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made a little more progress tonight... finally got the passenger side spring perch off, and smoothed out the passenger side tube. i also got rotors (thanks topper :tu2: ) and mounted them to the hubs. will take to work and finish pressing the studs into hubs (very limited tools at home...)
before ya start yellin, i will try to get pics up tomorrow... too tired tonight.

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made a little more progress tonight... finally got the passenger side spring perch off, and smoothed out the passenger side tube. i also got rotors (thanks topper :tu2: ) and mounted them to the hubs. will take to work and finish pressing the studs into hubs (very limited tools at home...)
before ya start yellin, i will try to get pics up tomorrow... too tired tonight.


you know a hammer and punch work very well for "pressing" in wheel studs....

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Chuck wrote:
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made a little more progress tonight... finally got the passenger side spring perch off, and smoothed out the passenger side tube. i also got rotors (thanks topper :tu2: ) and mounted them to the hubs. will take to work and finish pressing the studs into hubs (very limited tools at home...)
before ya start yellin, i will try to get pics up tomorrow... too tired tonight.


you know a hammer and punch work very well for "pressing" in wheel studs....

yeah, i know... i just have all my tools at work is all. all i had a home was a hammer.
on a side note... got the hubs and rotors cleaned up and mounted together. just need to get a couple of studs and seals and hubs will be done. (for now)

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Sparky wrote:
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made a little more progress tonight... finally got the passenger side spring perch off, and smoothed out the passenger side tube. i also got rotors (thanks topper :tu2: ) and mounted them to the hubs. will take to work and finish pressing the studs into hubs (very limited tools at home...)
before ya start yellin, i will try to get pics up tomorrow... too tired tonight.


you know a hammer and punch work very well for "pressing" in wheel studs....

yeah, i know... i just have all my tools at work is all. all i had a home was a hammer.
on a side note... got the hubs and rotors cleaned up and mounted together. just need to get a couple of studs and seals and hubs will be done. (for meow)


Yeah, i didn't put a new seal on when i had it apart...that was dumb...now i have to tear apart the passenger side to put a new seal on... :-(

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chuck, do you have the special tool for the nuts? if so, where do i find one? i would like to get ahold of one.

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chuck, do you have the special tool for the nuts? if so, where do i find one? i would like to get ahold of one.


I think this thread just got WAY too personal...

are you talking about the rear axle bearing retainer nut? you can use a chevy front hub 4 prong tool on the rear, but i usually just use a flat blade screwdriver...

i just tighten them till there's no play, then get it to the closest locking tooth.

make sense?

Edit: And you can get the tool at napa or autozone or anyone of those in the "help" section usually.

have you checked out Pirate4x4's 14 bolt bible? (pirates down at the moment...)

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no, i have not seen the 14b bible... tried to get on pirate just a min ago and its still down...

update:
got the other spring perch off tonight, and smoothed out the other tube. shop a light coat of paint on the tubes so they won't rust. plan to get the housing smoothed out and have the whole housing painted black by this weekend. have looked into shaving the diff and got a couple of ideas. may try to do it with help, may have the guy Chuck took his to do it. not too sure yet... :?

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no, i have not seen the 14b bible... tried to get on pirate just a min ago and its still down...

update:
got the other spring perch off tonight, and smoothed out the other tube. shop a light coat of paint on the tubes so they won't rust. plan to get the housing smoothed out and have the whole housing painted black by this weekend. have looked into shaving the diff and got a couple of ideas. may try to do it with help, may have the guy Chuck took his to do it. not too sure yet... :?


I was really amazed last weekend at the badlands...i don't think i EVER got hung up on the rear diff...i was really surprised...and pleased.

Welding cast is foreign to me, i'd have someone weld it that knows what they're doing...worth paying for once, so you don't have to replace your busted in half 14 bolt...mines actually a 13 bolt now :-)

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dude...29 replies and still no pics? You sir, suck at this game...

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14 bolt bible is great. The rear bearing retaining nut uses the 6 prong spanner socket. I got mine at Advance Auto if I remember right, it was pretty cheap. You are supposed to torque that nut to 50 ft-lbs.

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dude...29 replies and still no pics? You sir, suck at this game...


yeah, i still suck at this game... i can't find my card reader... i will get a new one and when i do, i will post up the pics on my phone (have about 10 or so)

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dude...29 replies and still no pics? You sir, suck at this game...


yeah, i still suck at this game... i can't find my card reader... i will get a new one and when i do, i will post up the pics on my phone (have about 10 or so)


send the pics to your email via text....thats what i do in a pinch :tu2:


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forgot about that... i may have to try that...

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okay, here are a few pics, i need to paint the housing black (probably tomorrow) and snap a pic or 2 of the housing empty. thanks kellyd for the idear...

strapped on trailer ready to head home
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the wheel, mmm... 8lug...
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3.73 gears... soon to be bye, bye!
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hub as it sits with no drum
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clean axle tubes - sorry for blurry pic
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hubs, rotors painted and rotors cleaned up
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that's it for now... i will get a couple more tomorrow hopefully :lol:

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got the new/well used cj turn signals on today, been wanting some since i flat fendered the heep...

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bought damn time we got pics slacker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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took a while to get them cleaned up, but they look okay. need new lenses then they will look new..

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just got some 1" motor mount lift blocks for the heep. as well, i am going to order 3 sticks (20ft ea.) of 1 3/4" .120 wall hrew toob tomorrow... hopefully i can get the "boatsides" and cage done soon!
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got my belly up done today!!! :tu2: thanks topper!
i have a few exhaust tweaks (remove gutted cat and put flowmaster inside of skid)
overall it was pretty easy to do... i will have to do a sye, i have a drive shaft but need to buy the sye (found one on pirate for cheap...) then shorten shaft and should be good to go there...
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here are some pics after the belly up...

side of heep... kinda hard to see it but its fresh black...
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lower pic if side... can see the skid (homemade by rosco if you know him)
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here is behind the skid, yes i need a sye... hopefully will do one soon. the exhaust needs help too. plan to cut out the cat (already gutted and non functional) and put the flowmaster so it dumps about an inch or two behind the skid so it will be protected. may have to get a new one...
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here is from the front of the heep, the exhaust hanger will be retained, but cut behind to move muffler up behind it completely protecting it...
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sweet! :tu2: that rear? driveshaft is really short...or is that a normal length? It looks like it'd be stronger that way? Is there a way I can do that? :lol:

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sweet! :tu2: that rear? driveshaft is really short...or is that a normal length? It looks like it'd be stronger that way? Is there a way I can do that? :lol:


Thats stock length... he needs an SYE and to make it longer.... you don't want yours that way... its weaker

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sweet! :tu2: that rear? driveshaft is really short...or is that a normal length? It looks like it'd be stronger that way? Is there a way I can do that? :lol:


Thats stock length... he needs an SYE and to make it longer.... you don't want yours that way... its weaker


oh...um, why? and what's an SYE?

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Slip Yoke Eliminator is what an sye is... hopefully i can pickup one soon.

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Slip Yoke Eliminator is what an sye is... hopefully i can pickup one soon.


$200 SYE for a TJ
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found a used one (same kit) on pirate for 100 bucks... can't get the guy to message me back...
if not i will go through porc and get one... cheapest i've seen...

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found a used one (same kit) on pirate for 100 bucks... can't get the guy to message me back...
if not i will go through porc and get one... cheapest i've seen...

Did you buy it? it's sold if you didn't....

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welp... i figured since i've done pretty much nothing to this, i would get something done.
i pulled the driver door off and apart to paint. stripped down easy and i still need another coat before clear coat can go on. but looks good. still kinda weird with white doors instead of black. anyways, i took a pic for ya'll.
still need to do the passenger side. ran out of paint. so i will get some more and get the other door done next week.
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SYE is a slip yolk eliminator. It helps with the change in driveshaft angle when lifting a vehicle. The transfer case can also be lowered to help with a bad angle, but then it can hang down into obstacles on the trail.


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your tube was transported today to toppers house...

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mac 'you welcome ;) ' gyvr


thanks mac!!! :) its appreciated...


probably should've just taken it to my house...

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welp, i bought a steering wheel.... just a ricer style. and got that put on... i will picture it tomorrow...

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welp, i bought a steering wheel.... just a ricer style. and got that put on... i will picture it tomorrow...


Does the steering wheel make it a 1 ton TJ? :-D :elephant:

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welp, i bought a steering wheel.... just a ricer style. and got that put on... i will picture it tomorrow...


Does the steering wheel make it a 1 ton TJ? :-D :elephant:


Its Ricer style... so it must had like 5 or 10 horsepower

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welp, i bought a steering wheel.... just a ricer style. and got that put on... i will picture it tomorrow...


Does the steering wheel make it a 1 ton TJ? :-D :elephant:


Its Ricer style... so it must add like 5 or 10 horsepower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know you get excited when you think of something funny...but seriously, slow down to type it so it reads correctly!

Fixed if for you :) hehehe

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welp, i bought a steering wheel.... just a ricer style. and got that put on... i will picture it tomorrow...


Does the steering wheel make it a 1 ton TJ? :-D :elephant:


Its Ricer style... so it must add like 5 or 10 horsepower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know you get excited when you think of something funny...but seriously, slow down to type it so it reads correctly!

Fixed if for you :) hehehe



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figured i will update as the jeep is sitting at topper's house awaiting on tearing the factory cage out to start over.

plans include:
removing factory cage, starting over with complete cage using 1 3/4 and 1 1/2 dom tubing.
i have 3 20ft sticks of 1 3/4 and plan to pick up 2 sticks of 1 1/2 maybe 3 depending...
the new cage will be a 2 seater style, topper is still working on the layout, will post up the cad picture later when its done.
the cage will then be tied into the frame.
i may or may not add door bars or hip bars at this time, but have plans to do so in the future... depends on how much tube we have when that time comes around.
will also be adding 5 point harnesses (just ordered these: http://www.jegs.com/p/RCI/752633/10002/-1 the red ones at the top of the list... )
the cage was planned to be painted a metallic copper color but couldn't find the color i wanted so it will be done in metallic red instead. the color will be neat when done.
i also have plans to get the tub herculined while the cage is out.

other little projects include if tube allows:
bend up new grille hoop and winch protector
add tube to rock rails and then tie them into frame like cage also.

i have alot of work ahead of me and hope to update this thread as it progresses in the next few weeks.
with this amount of work/ money spent, i guess i won't make the april fools run :td: (most likely) but have full intentions of testing the cage out at the badlands this summer! i can't wait to see how this comes together...

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Sparky wrote:
figured i will update as the jeep is sitting at topper's house awaiting on tearing the factory cage out to start over.

plans include:
removing factory cage, starting over with complete cage using 1 3/4 and 1 1/2 dom tubing.
i have 3 20ft sticks of 1 3/4 and plan to pick up 2 sticks of 1 1/2 maybe 3 depending...
the new cage will be a 2 seater style, topper is still working on the layout, will post up the cad picture later when its done.
the cage will then be tied into the frame.
i may or may not add door bars or hip bars at this time, but have plans to do so in the future... depends on how much tube we have when that time comes around.
will also be adding 5 point harnesses (just ordered these: http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s ... howValue=1 )
the cage was planned to be painted a metallic copper color but couldn't find the color i wanted so it will be done in metallic red instead. the color will be neat when done.
i also have plans to get the tub herculined while the cage is out.

other little projects include if tube allows:
bend up new grille hoop and winch protector
add tube to rock rails and then tie them into frame like cage also.

i have alot of work ahead of me and hope to update this thread as it progresses in the next few weeks.
with this amount of work/ money spent, i guess i won't make the april fools run :td: (most likely) but have full intentions of testing the cage out at the badlands this summer! i can't wait to see how this comes together...


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it's not out completely... but i don't plan on making it... thats alot of work to do in less than a month... but if i can, i will... and if i hhave the money too... this version of the project will be costly...

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it's not out completely... but i don't plan on making it... thats alot of work to do in less than a month... but if i can, i will... and if i hhave the money too... this version of the project will be costly...



yeah thats true but im sure there is enough time to get it done as long as the money works for ya. it wont take long to put that cage together. need me to bring the torch?

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well, we finished taking the measurements today and got the cage designed on topper's computer with his nifty little bender program. so here is a couple of the cage's design. didn't know how to post them from his computer so i took pics...
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then we started working on pulling the seats, and cage.
got to that point... here are a couple of pics with no seats and cage.
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cage on floor all by it's self...
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took the jeep and loaded it on the trailer and washed the inside at the quarter wash, it was muddy inside...
did not get a chance to get a pic of heep on trailer... but here is the mostly clean tub...
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next will be to start bending some tube and getting things in order to progress further... :tu2:

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well, progress has been made... we got the 2 b-pillar and the c-pillar cage pads done, didn't picture the c-pillar pads as they are just square...
here are the b-pillar pads...
driver side:
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built cage pads that will get tied into the frame. had to do some work here, the tj tub has a boxed in rail where the body mounts are and we had to cut that rail out to fit the pad in place.
driver side:
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passenger side:
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the software we are using is called bend tech pro, in which we can bend the tubes then "drop" them in and they should fit... so we went ahead and bent both tubes that goes from the front at the floor to the rear.
both bent well, and we pushed the jeep outside and dropped them in. and they fit as they should have.
now, we have a little tweaking to get the perfect spot where we want them to end up but here is how it looks as of last night...
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bars go through the dash:
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the drivers side looks the same. i will have to do a little work to the hvac ducts because i had to pull them out to fit the tube inside. but i'm not too worried about it right now...
here is a view from the front of the jeep...
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and last, we did a test spot in the fender to see what the paint would look like, here it is:
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Looking good.
Is the top still going to fit?

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pictures are way to big...i cant see anything


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Looking good.
Is the top still going to fit?

top was the stipulation, told him it had to fit...
with that said, the door surrounds will be modified...

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looks good so far


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i like it. How many feet of tube did it take for one of the hoops you built?

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Cost me 300 to put discs ALL THE WAY AROUND by using the racecar shop and local suppliers.

O'Rly?

All the way around, I can see that. I know I spent less on my conversion, but that was just for the rear, and all new parts.

I thought I had a link to the list I used, I'll have to go find it again.

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pictures are way to big...i cant see anything

Right click, view image.

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looks great sparky :2up: :2up:


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well, after forever.... i finally made some progress.
i picked up the rugged ridge mega short sye from baseline4x4 and got that installed.
put the tummy tuck back in and thats how she sits as of now.

i am now working on collecting parts to build up some rear upper adjustable control arms so i can set pinion angle to get my rear cv shaft shortened.
went to metal supermarkets today and picked up some tube (2 12" pieces of 1.5" .250 wall tube) that has a 1" inner diameter.
ordering this rod end kit on friday... so i will update then....
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chaz wrote:
pictures are way to big...i cant see anything

Right click, view image.

That's not an option, at least for me...

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why would you use heim joints?

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because they work, and are cheaper than the alternatives...
these arms won't be used for forever, just until i get axles done...

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guess i can update...
i got some stainless braided brake lines from dick, got those installed along with a pair of ome front shocks and bar pin eliminators.

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ok... i haven't updated this in forever....
the things i know i have done since last time i updated is:
broke rear diff again... bought a new (to me) d35 off craigslist and installed.
replaced all u-joints in both cv drive shafts (front and rear)
replaced both unit (hub) bearings
replaced both axle shaft u-joints

i have built a new front bumper and need to add tube to it and some d-ring tabs.
i have now picked up some new ball joints and new bearings for the gears (pinion bearings are shot)
i still need some inner axle shaft seals and a new pinion seal and the front rebuild will partake...
i got the ball joints off ebay, spicer brand upper and lowers for both sides for 109 bucks shipped...appears to be the only way to go...
anyways, i should have them by the end of the week and i will pick up the needed seals probably next week. so i can get this done so i can go wheelin...

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hurry up dude...i got the itch real bad...

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...i got the itch real bad...


I think they make a creme for that...

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hey, i still have the jeep.... and i've done stuff.

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to back him up that he still has it..

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hey, i still have the jeep.... and i've done stuff.

:tu2:

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hey, i still have the jeep.... and i've done stuff.


Very cool. :)

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Alan, what happened to that picture on your facebook page? I had typed out all my specs and wanted to save it for now.

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