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 Post subject: Hey, Bronco here, need some help
 Post Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:59 pm 
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I just walked into around $600.00 and I am trying to come up with ideas for the Bronco. I found yesterday that maybe I don't have enough traction, I know I will never have as good a stock system as the Jeeps but I would like something more than what I have so I may not get stuck so much. I think I could have made it out of the trouble I was in yesterday with a little more effort but did not feel like holding everyone else up in the play time. Besides, I got to spray them all so it was worth it. I know a locker would help in the front but they seem pretty pricey and I want to get as much bang for the buck as I can.

Can the D44 front safely, as in be strong enough to handle, being welded instead of just putting in a locker for the front.

I do not know anything about the 8.8 and whether it is posi or just limited slip, could I weld that together as well safely that way I would have a lot more traction, or at least more work being done from the tires instead of the axle deciding which tire should turn.

I have pulled out the sway bars in the front and rear which was reccomended on a Bronco site for a lot more flex/travel in the exles.

My main goal is to make it a lot more off road capable before we hit badlands next month. I don't want to be the guy who is going to constantly need a pull out of something. I know Broncos can be made to keep up just not sure what all it will take.

Accepting advice and help from anyone with experience, all is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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I'd probably stay away from welding the 8.8 on a fullsize rig, they just aren't that strong.
As for the front, you should probably be able to get a lunch box locker for a few hundred dollars and be good. I wouldn't weld the front, it will makeit extremely hard to turn, and greatly increase your turning radius.

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I dont have any experience with broncos but if you are looking for more traction your best bet would be lockers like you just said. I dont think you will have much to worry about with either of the axles as long as you stay off the skinny pedal. Drive with some since and pick a good line and all should be well. There are alot of options for different budgets when it comes to lockers. If you want to be on the cheaper side i would look for a lunchbox locker or something of that type, or you can step it up for something like a detroit or even a selectable locker like a ARB. I would expect to pay around $250 to $300 for a lock-rite, about $400 for a detroit truetrac, about $500 to $600 for a detroit, and around $700 to $800 for a ARB. Then also keep in mind the cost to have something like this installed if you do not have the skills or tools to do the job properly.


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Installation? Hell, that is why I have all of you guys and beer money. :tu2:

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PC_WhiteBronco wrote:
Installation? Hell, that is why I have all of you guys and beer money. :tu2:


never said there wouldnt be someone on here willing to help. but it all comes at a cost (weather its beer or money) and some of these guys have some f'ed up schedules...LOL


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lol, hope you know I meant that as a joke :lol:

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PC_WhiteBronco wrote:
lol, hope you know I meant that as a joke :lol:


joking on this forum....haha







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okay okay, you caught me :? I was semi joking :lol:

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Just wondering if this would work for me:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DANA-44-POSI-30-spline-Locker-Jeep-Ford-Scout-Chevy_W0QQitemZ160241901567QQihZ006QQcategoryZ33728QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

Price is fairly cheap, just not too knowledgable on these things.

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PC_WhiteBronco wrote:



Im not that knowledgable either when it comes to what will be reliable and what is not. maybe some one else who know alittle more about them will chime in. It will also be a good idea to verify what gears and spline count you have since that will make a difference.


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They tend to do ok, remember though, its only for gears no lower than 3.73s... They can be rebuilt with extra clutches that will allow them to lock harder.
Or run it like it is and be sure to add plenty of posi atitive

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But is a posi trac unit really a locker? i guess it's not a limited slip diff....this is a question...

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Chuck wrote:
But is a posi trac unit really a locker? i guess it's not a limited slip diff....this is a question...


its kind of like a lunch box locker that has its own carrier

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'88 GMC S15 Trail Gypsy
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Chuck wrote:
But is a posi trac unit really a locker?



No. Lockers will completely engage both sides, a Posi or Limited slip use clutches, and allow differential between axles. They are better than open, but not locked.

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Tuffjarhed wrote:
Chuck wrote:
But is a posi trac unit really a locker?



No. Lockers will completely engage both sides, a Posi or Limited slip use clutches, and allow differential between axles. They are better than open, but not locked.


That's what i thought, thanks!

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 Post Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:38 pm 
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broncograveyard.com has a good selection of parts.
I ordered a trac-loc for my ford, it was only $250 from BGY. They are out of MI, so its usually only 1-2 days to get the order.

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 1:21 am 
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which one did you order and what year? A lot of the things I have seen them advertise are ridiculously overpriced, their bumpers for one.

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 Post Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:52 am 
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It was the Yukon Gear trac-loc for a 79 F150 w/ ford 9". They had the best price of all the internet site I searched. I did notice some things were over priced...

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